[ScarecrowVT]

If everyone thinks it's a skill issue, I challenge you to make a relevant mutant then. If all like, 80 mutants of the Mire have been wrong, show us it right then? Because really, I fucking doubt it. It's easy to talk shit lol.

calm down. Go at it with a level head. Don't let them rile you up.

[rea]

if 80 people cant do anything with 150 free rpp and a 3000 out of 40,000 hp loss i have bad news about those people

[Shadovarn]

I would kill for adversity on Smile.

[Upset Toaster]

Just want to talk as a mutant player who has tried to make both ghost rip and Adversity work.
It is hard. I've tested a shit ton of things. I have a friend(NeatherRealmer) who is a way better verber than most and he has tested it with a lot.

It is not something easy to make work. You can't throw it into any build and expect it to work. It is barely great if you build for either of them.
What me and Neather have both found is GhostRip is best used if you know you're opponent can die in one or two hits from it. Otherwise you waste a shit ton of mana for no pay off. He uses it on a metal build and let me tell you. Me and him verb a lot. I have TWO invuls. If I invul out of any of his stuff he's just wasting mana.

As for adversity. Same thing can happen. Except you're wasting your health if you miss. It's hard to make it work in a stun cleansing invul based game.

It's easy to say "You can do-" but it's harder in practice.

What I'm gonna say is this. If you think you can use these spells effectively. Make a mutant and show us. There has yet to be a mutant who has broken the game from what I have heard. So if you think you can do it. Be the first and become a legend.

If everyone thinks it's a skill issue, I challenge you to make a relevant mutant then. If all like, 80 mutants of the Mire have been wrong, show us it right then? Because really, I fucking doubt it. It's easy to talk shit lol.

i mean ok

[Cloutio2x]

New suggestion delete mutants lol.........................

[Nerdlord57]

New suggestion delete mutants lol.........................

Honestly? Yeah. They are not Monster enough imo for the Shadowmire. Replace them with like. . Naga that aren't big tittied birches or something.

[Delirium]

New suggestion delete mutants lol.........................

Honestly? Yeah. They are not Monster enough imo for the Shadowmire. Replace them with like. . Naga that aren't big tittied birches or something.

Naga, Arachne, and Gorgons could all easily be added into Shadowmire. Won't lie about that. We just passed up on 3 really nice monster races that were already in game before and idk why that happened.

[ScarecrowVT]

Naga, Arachne, and Gorgons could all easily be added into Shadowmire. Won't lie about that. We just passed up on 3 really nice monster races that were already in game before and idk why that happened.

BRING BACK ARACHNE!!! JUSTICE FOR ARACHNE!!!

[Shadovarn]

Verdict is in.

Adversity is dumb powerful.

[Upset Toaster]

Tips on using Adversity well:

Press it two times for 100 power added and just go in with Caster Q or Ifrit.
If you can get some sorr of healing to negate some of it's HP reducing, you will have a better time.

If you have the HP advantage, you can squeeze in 50 more power to destroy your enemy with burst.

Stop trying to build for character and nonsense, you are going in with the intention of being a monster and trying to give development to everyone. If you can get a buff or a hidden, even better.

At 200, with three ticks, you should roughly have an AP Aura that gives you 10% AP. This stacks with adversty from my tests, and you should get roughly ten seconds of ~450 power with the right tools of the trade and roughly three ticks of Adversity.

Verdict:

Skill issue.